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		<title>By: Jan Ceuleers</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-97462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Ceuleers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These resource-eating processes come back each time the device is reset, so I have automated the above advice. This script is run from cron on one of my Linux machines, where vdsl2.xperim.be is the DNS name of my BBox2:

#!/bin/bash
nc -i 2 vdsl2.xperim.be 23 &gt; /dev/null &lt;&lt;EOS
admin
BGCVDSL2
shell
killall tr98
exit
exit

EOS

If you want to kill more than only tr98, then just add the appropriate killall commands immediately before or after the killall tr98 command.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These resource-eating processes come back each time the device is reset, so I have automated the above advice. This script is run from cron on one of my Linux machines, where vdsl2.xperim.be is the DNS name of my BBox2:</p>
<p>#!/bin/bash<br />
nc -i 2 vdsl2.xperim.be 23 &gt; /dev/null &lt;&lt;EOS<br />
admin<br />
BGCVDSL2<br />
shell<br />
killall tr98<br />
exit<br />
exit</p>
<p>EOS</p>
<p>If you want to kill more than only tr98, then just add the appropriate killall commands immediately before or after the killall tr98 command.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-97385</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 18:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tr98 process isn&#039;t there anymore with the newest software. 
The update happens when you ask to activate the new BelgacomTV on PC service.

The box is now more stable and doesn&#039;t use 98% of it&#039;s CPU all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tr98 process isn&#8217;t there anymore with the newest software.<br />
The update happens when you ask to activate the new BelgacomTV on PC service.</p>
<p>The box is now more stable and doesn&#8217;t use 98% of it&#8217;s CPU all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94645</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sydney  

Indeed, if you killed tr69 and/or have VLAN20 disabled, you will not get the firmware updates.  The latest firmware revision bears the Runtime Code Version     60R109-60A022.  This was specifically intended to allow the 17Mhz profile (aka 30 Mbps for now). The main firmware version has not been updated for a while.  
To re-enable tr69, you need to reboot the box. Do not forget to re-enable VLAN20 also. At boot-up, it will check if a new firmware is available. 

Thanks for you kind words about the blog. Good to know it is useful to some people out there. It really makes my day :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sydney  </p>
<p>Indeed, if you killed tr69 and/or have VLAN20 disabled, you will not get the firmware updates.  The latest firmware revision bears the Runtime Code Version     60R109-60A022.  This was specifically intended to allow the 17Mhz profile (aka 30 Mbps for now). The main firmware version has not been updated for a while.<br />
To re-enable tr69, you need to reboot the box. Do not forget to re-enable VLAN20 also. At boot-up, it will check if a new firmware is available. </p>
<p>Thanks for you kind words about the blog. Good to know it is useful to some people out there. It really makes my day <img src='http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sydney</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94644</link>
		<dc:creator>Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 05:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi everybody,

i killed tr69 and sipd since the one melted a bbox and the other one ate all its memory.

a few days ago, BGC introduced its &quot;new&quot; 30 mb/s line rates in our region (Eupen).

my firmware version is VTU-R:5.5.1.2IK105012 from 1st Oct &#039;09.

not that i have bandwidth issues or somewhat (upstream is a bit bursty, as always), but i wonder if i missed/failed some updates.

@patrick: you wrote in another post about BGC CPE-management (fw-updates over private 10.x.x.x lan).. could it be possible that the box couldn&#039;t update because no process tr69 is running / what was the latest (stable) fw-update for this box?

btw, i&#039;m using the box as a modem for a bsd-box.

cool blog though, didn&#039;t know there where so much other people do mind what they&#039;re getting.

Have a nice one, everybody..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi everybody,</p>
<p>i killed tr69 and sipd since the one melted a bbox and the other one ate all its memory.</p>
<p>a few days ago, BGC introduced its &#8220;new&#8221; 30 mb/s line rates in our region (Eupen).</p>
<p>my firmware version is VTU-R:5.5.1.2IK105012 from 1st Oct &#8217;09.</p>
<p>not that i have bandwidth issues or somewhat (upstream is a bit bursty, as always), but i wonder if i missed/failed some updates.</p>
<p>@patrick: you wrote in another post about BGC CPE-management (fw-updates over private 10.x.x.x lan).. could it be possible that the box couldn&#8217;t update because no process tr69 is running / what was the latest (stable) fw-update for this box?</p>
<p>btw, i&#8217;m using the box as a modem for a bsd-box.</p>
<p>cool blog though, didn&#8217;t know there where so much other people do mind what they&#8217;re getting.</p>
<p>Have a nice one, everybody..</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94480</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@M3TT3 Well, the updates &lt;strong&gt;could&lt;/strong&gt; be beneficial. For example, the rumor is that the latest update is supposed to allow greater speeds on VDSL2, by enabling the 17Mhz profile.  Due to Belgacom&#039;s culture of secrecy, we don&#039;t know for sure.  But, as you say, you can re-enable the updates it by doing a reset, or reboot the box and enable VLAN20.   

From personal experience,my modem is a bit cooler now those processes are killed. Note, however, that the original Sagem has a different case than the BBOX-2, and tends to be hotter because of that. 

I have seen no adverse effects in killing those processes, and one major benefit: the Box does not reboot randomly as it did before. It has been stable now for more than two months, without a single reboot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@M3TT3 Well, the updates <strong>could</strong> be beneficial. For example, the rumor is that the latest update is supposed to allow greater speeds on VDSL2, by enabling the 17Mhz profile.  Due to Belgacom&#8217;s culture of secrecy, we don&#8217;t know for sure.  But, as you say, you can re-enable the updates it by doing a reset, or reboot the box and enable VLAN20.   </p>
<p>From personal experience,my modem is a bit cooler now those processes are killed. Note, however, that the original Sagem has a different case than the BBOX-2, and tends to be hotter because of that. </p>
<p>I have seen no adverse effects in killing those processes, and one major benefit: the Box does not reboot randomly as it did before. It has been stable now for more than two months, without a single reboot.</p>
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		<title>By: M3TT3</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94479</link>
		<dc:creator>M3TT3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice info! So what you are saying is that the tr98 and tr69 processes are responsible for the belgacom firmware updates and the sipd processes are for the VOIP services?
I don&#039;t use VOIP, but a regular telephone line, and I don&#039;t really need automatic updates. If a new one is posted, I can reset the router, let it update and kill the processes again.
Have you noticed any adverse effects when killing the processes, or would you say it&#039;s safe?
Also, have you noticed the bbox2 running cooler, or have you measured the drop in power consumption? I&#039;ve got a power meter here somewhere, so I can check it if you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice info! So what you are saying is that the tr98 and tr69 processes are responsible for the belgacom firmware updates and the sipd processes are for the VOIP services?<br />
I don&#8217;t use VOIP, but a regular telephone line, and I don&#8217;t really need automatic updates. If a new one is posted, I can reset the router, let it update and kill the processes again.<br />
Have you noticed any adverse effects when killing the processes, or would you say it&#8217;s safe?<br />
Also, have you noticed the bbox2 running cooler, or have you measured the drop in power consumption? I&#8217;ve got a power meter here somewhere, so I can check it if you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94449</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wim 
&gt;I searched *2 seconds* and I found this:

Thanks for the link. It is especially worrying that this problem has been reported this long ago to BGC, but still not solved. 

&gt; And kill doesn’t solve your problem, as it will be restarted automatically.
&gt; Also, it will stop updates from Belgacom and can result in reboot of the modem.

It is only restarted at boot time, which does not happen very often. Actually, when the tr98 process is inactive, the Bbox2 does not spontaneously reboot at all. 
I suspect spontaneous reboots are related to the high load generated by the tr98 process and the memory used by the sipd processes.  As for the updates, you are right. I usually wait to hear from other people&#039;s experiences with new firmware versions before allowing my modem to update itself. The lack of information from BGC regarding these updates do not help either.

The difference of opinion on the meaning of the &quot;load average&quot; is as old as Unix itself.  It very much depends which kind of machine you are talking about. On a typical CPE with a a low end CPU I would not be concerned for spikes above 1.0. However, a constant load of more than 2.0 over 15 minutes does look strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wim<br />
>I searched *2 seconds* and I found this:</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. It is especially worrying that this problem has been reported this long ago to BGC, but still not solved. </p>
<p>> And kill doesn’t solve your problem, as it will be restarted automatically.<br />
> Also, it will stop updates from Belgacom and can result in reboot of the modem.</p>
<p>It is only restarted at boot time, which does not happen very often. Actually, when the tr98 process is inactive, the Bbox2 does not spontaneously reboot at all.<br />
I suspect spontaneous reboots are related to the high load generated by the tr98 process and the memory used by the sipd processes.  As for the updates, you are right. I usually wait to hear from other people&#8217;s experiences with new firmware versions before allowing my modem to update itself. The lack of information from BGC regarding these updates do not help either.</p>
<p>The difference of opinion on the meaning of the &#8220;load average&#8221; is as old as Unix itself.  It very much depends which kind of machine you are talking about. On a typical CPE with a a low end CPU I would not be concerned for spikes above 1.0. However, a constant load of more than 2.0 over 15 minutes does look strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Wim</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94448</link>
		<dc:creator>Wim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; 2. I did not find any reference to this behaviour before I posted it on 9 April, and certainly not on the Belgacom 

I searched *2 seconds* and I found this:

http://forum.belgacom.net/view.php?bn=selfcareforumnl_bugs&amp;key=1248382769

From July 2009 ...


&gt;1. The BBOX2 is not as old (“years ago”) 
Yes it is, exactly 2 years old.

And kill doesn&#039;t solve your problem, as it will be restarted automatically.
Also, it will stop updates from Belgacom and can result in reboot of the modem.

&gt;Rather, a load average higher than 1.0 means the CPU is &gt;potentially overloaded.

Not true. Above 10 you can call &#039;overloaded&#039;, but still not dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; 2. I did not find any reference to this behaviour before I posted it on 9 April, and certainly not on the Belgacom </p>
<p>I searched *2 seconds* and I found this:</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.belgacom.net/view.php?bn=selfcareforumnl_bugs&#038;key=1248382769" rel="nofollow">http://forum.belgacom.net/view.php?bn=selfcareforumnl_bugs&#038;key=1248382769</a></p>
<p>From July 2009 &#8230;</p>
<p>&gt;1. The BBOX2 is not as old (“years ago”)<br />
Yes it is, exactly 2 years old.</p>
<p>And kill doesn&#8217;t solve your problem, as it will be restarted automatically.<br />
Also, it will stop updates from Belgacom and can result in reboot of the modem.</p>
<p>&gt;Rather, a load average higher than 1.0 means the CPU is &gt;potentially overloaded.</p>
<p>Not true. Above 10 you can call &#8216;overloaded&#8217;, but still not dying.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94421</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Edwin:  The &quot;2.06&quot; on the top line is not a percentage. See this explanation on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;. Rather, a load average higher than 1.0 means the CPU is potentially overloaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Edwin:  The &#8220;2.06&#8243; on the top line is not a percentage. See this explanation on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>. Rather, a load average higher than 1.0 means the CPU is potentially overloaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Zwintje</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94411</link>
		<dc:creator>Zwintje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the BBOX is not using 96 % of its total cpu time for tr98. When you look to the total load on top of your screen, you will see there is only about 2% cpu load.
Of that 2% TR98 uses 96% CPU time.
I have killed TR98 en the sip process, and after some time other processes go to much higher cpu time, and the total gets back to 100 %. WSCCMD now uses 95% of the cpu time.

Edwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the BBOX is not using 96 % of its total cpu time for tr98. When you look to the total load on top of your screen, you will see there is only about 2% cpu load.<br />
Of that 2% TR98 uses 96% CPU time.<br />
I have killed TR98 en the sip process, and after some time other processes go to much higher cpu time, and the total gets back to 100 %. WSCCMD now uses 95% of the cpu time.</p>
<p>Edwin</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94402</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom:  It may be old news, although:
1. The BBOX2 is not as old (&quot;years ago&quot;) as you seem to imply and 
2. I did not find any reference to this behaviour before I posted it on 9 April, and certainly not on the Belgacom forums, which seem to be dead and totally abandoned by the BGC staff. 

I certainly make no claim to have been the first one to discover that behaviour. But It was sufficiently annoying to be worth a blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom:  It may be old news, although:<br />
1. The BBOX2 is not as old (&#8220;years ago&#8221;) as you seem to imply and<br />
2. I did not find any reference to this behaviour before I posted it on 9 April, and certainly not on the Belgacom forums, which seem to be dead and totally abandoned by the BGC staff. </p>
<p>I certainly make no claim to have been the first one to discover that behaviour. But It was sufficiently annoying to be worth a blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94395</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OLD news!
This was already reported years ago on the  belgacom forums</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OLD news!<br />
This was already reported years ago on the  belgacom forums</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94349</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely amazing that this process is such a nasty CPU hog. I killed the TR98 process and no major problems to report except for one (which I think is totally unrelated)... anybody having problems with Apple devices (Macbook, iPad) randomly disconnecting from the BBOX2 WiFi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely amazing that this process is such a nasty CPU hog. I killed the TR98 process and no major problems to report except for one (which I think is totally unrelated)&#8230; anybody having problems with Apple devices (Macbook, iPad) randomly disconnecting from the BBOX2 WiFi?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94330</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 04:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil Once you logged in, make sure you type &quot;shell&quot; to access BusyBox. &quot;top&quot; is an internal command in BusyBox. 

What I have noticed is that, sometimes, any command at the prompt is ineffective. Even &quot;ls&quot; or &quot;exit&quot;. If I try a few minutes later, it usually works again. Don&#039;t ask me why ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Phil Once you logged in, make sure you type &#8220;shell&#8221; to access BusyBox. &#8220;top&#8221; is an internal command in BusyBox. </p>
<p>What I have noticed is that, sometimes, any command at the prompt is ineffective. Even &#8220;ls&#8221; or &#8220;exit&#8221;. If I try a few minutes later, it usually works again. Don&#8217;t ask me why &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94329</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good info here :) If I telnet to my BBOX2, &#039;top&#039; command doesn&#039;t seem to exist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good info here <img src='http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If I telnet to my BBOX2, &#8216;top&#8217; command doesn&#8217;t seem to exist?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zwintje Actually, the whole filesystem is read-only, much like a CD-ROM. There is no way to rename/delete files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zwintje Actually, the whole filesystem is read-only, much like a CD-ROM. There is no way to rename/delete files.</p>
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		<title>By: zwintje</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94323</link>
		<dc:creator>zwintje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 01:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I d&#039;ont that much about linux, but maybe we kan rename the files used for those processes like TR98 or voip.
So next time the bbox reboots he simply can not start those processes.
If in future we do need the processes, we simply give them back the original name.

Zwintje.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I d&#8217;ont that much about linux, but maybe we kan rename the files used for those processes like TR98 or voip.<br />
So next time the bbox reboots he simply can not start those processes.<br />
If in future we do need the processes, we simply give them back the original name.</p>
<p>Zwintje.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94311</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Seb   I verified on the BBOX2. Its behaviour is different. What is killed remains so until the next reboot. +1 for the BBOX2, i guess ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Seb   I verified on the BBOX2. Its behaviour is different. What is killed remains so until the next reboot. +1 for the BBOX2, i guess <img src='http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94310</link>
		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, I just noticed that after I killed the tr98 process yesterday, it has automatically come up again. Same for the SIPD process. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, I just noticed that after I killed the tr98 process yesterday, it has automatically come up again. Same for the SIPD process. <img src='http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Vande Walle</title>
		<link>http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/hardware/bbox-2/belgacoms-bbox2-wastes-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-94301</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Vande Walle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@serge the command is &#039;top&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@serge the command is &#8216;top&#8217;</p>
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